Test results show the potential for the following improvements compared to the regular factory tune: In .177 caliber: UP TO TWICE the number of consistent shots (with an Extreme Spread of 40 FPS). The rifle supplied by the manufacturer for maximum power should give a better result. Yet I can get it where I want it every time. For ALL Benjamin Marauder Rifles gen 1 or gen 2, ... + Best aftermarket valve assembly available, for regulated or unregulated applications. With a 2000 pound fill, it gets 80 shots without measurable loss of POI (point of impact) at 20 yards indoors, more than enough for a contest…. I have been getting around 80 shoots. $ It was twilight and I grabbed the wrong pellets by mistake. To work with CO2, a regulator would have to drop the evaporative pressure (853 psi at 70 degreed F) to a lower operating pressure and the firing valve would have to be tuned for that pressure. You might want to read my report on the air pressure regulator. throughout the range. All valves are not of equal quality and stability. A special thanks to guest blogger Jason “nervoustrigger” from the Gateway to Airguns forum for allowing us to share his article. If the threads are not damaged too bad, this will realign them. That was the lowest setting I could quickly get to that shot consistently. testing shot strings to find the sweet spot on an unregulated gun. Tuned using JSB MKIIs 33.95gr: ... Only this regulated air gets released during the shot. Use some different velocity figures for each and look at the poi differences.You will find that the faster the pellet (or bullet) gets to the target, the less POI will be affected by velocity deviation. I’ve tested PCP guns that varied by only two f.p.s. On the other hand, my Career 707 went from 30 usable shots to over 60 at the same power with a regulator. My thinking was that the regulator is the powder measure that I used to use back in the day. !Cheers,Jony, P.S. That’s still true, but the Custom Shop regulated Marauder adds just a little more style. I may try to tune it a little lower to see if I could do better, but 5 is inconsistent. by Charlie1022 » Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:20 am . But I choose to adjust my aim and leave the power adjuster at half. I get dealer pricing, so buy and sell some stuff too.. A guy bought a disco from me and wanted it tuned by Tim at MAC 1. Springfield Armory M1A Underlever Pellet Rifle, Powered by WordPress. Regulated or Unregulated? On the 22 cal? Highlight specifications for the new regulated Marauder are 85+ consistent, regulated shots at 950 FPS in .177 caliber. How does one unlock this valve or lower the pressure? Most of them work best down around 2,000 psi and some work best at even lower pressure. I like to keep the power adjuster at about half on the .177 S410. But, of course, homebuyers have also found ways around that regulation – mostly in the unregulated mortgage space. As far as accuracy is concerned, I wouldn't expect a LW Marauder to … Tell the person you speak to that Yvette (E-Vet) asked you to call. My reservoir is 92 cubic inches and is filled to 4500 psi. Regs are not known for lasting a long time.”. Since I was shipping him one, I thought why not send him another one of ours, and see how the mods work. I’m not talking about decades of time, either. Here are my personal feelings. O-ring use on brass handle is 6x1,5 nbr 70. So I never know what number I am setting the gun to. O-ring used on plastic screw (screw for setting pressure) 4x1 nbr 90. They wanted to speak to you about your rifle. The AirForce Talon SS will often vary by 30 f.p.s. Divers recommend Luxfer brand, apparently for diving but I do not really know as far as pcps are concerned. or, perhaps, even less. The final thing I want to say about regulators is they will all fail at some point. And what about the disadvantages? A primary regulator is a non-adjustable reg that is attached directly to the air reservoir. Mac1 Airgun Distributors Online Click and Buy Shop is mac1airgunshop.com. Do any air rifles, except the CO2 rifles from AirForce, utilize the burst disk safety feature? My Marauder has shown me its capacity to kill at 100 yards with the proper scope and little practice. They should spin in with finger force only. a crosman marauder, for that matter, can be set up by the user for a very acceptable velocity spread. The primary reg reduces that pressure to 450psi. I was also impressed by twotalon’s technique. What setting do you have the power adjusted to in order to shoot 130 shots and only lose 237 fps (50 bar)? But I would guess individual rifles vary enough to make it anyone’s game. (At least at first). Painball regs must be substantially different than airgun regs if they last that long. I didn’t figure it out until I bought a PCP. Sounds like you are on the right road. ), I caught myself wondering how somebody would hunt squirrels using a multi-pump like my Benjamin 392? These regulators are usually large and traditionally double as hand grips. Both come in two calibers: .177 or .22. They are thin metal plate. Lone last note…If you snapped an allen wrench doing this, then you are using way too much force. Since your my bro and cover my back for me…If you want to try one, I'll rent you either the S410 .22 cal walnut stock, or the beech stock S310 .22 cal.. for a week or two.. you still have my email, don't you? Jony, It’s great to hear the optomism in your key stokes again. The funny thing is that at half power it shoots the 10.2 grain at 919fps, but it only goes up to 1081fps on full power.. so half on the adjuster is not half power. I used my chronograph to measure the speed of 80 shots and every 10 shots I looked at the manometer (pressure gauge) for the pressure reading. So I called Tim and had him send a new one from his stock to the customer, and bill me. : I spoke with a very nice lady in AirForce, she took my address… She is gonna send me a muzzle cap replacement screw first to see if it fits… if not, we’ll try something else… Now comes the waiting period…LOL… I am sure that the problem is the hole, but lets see… Take care!!Cheers,Jony. Sometimes they don’t leak down in months of sitting. When they go, you usually end up with an unregulated gun. Your idea for a blog on tips to selecting a high-pressure air tank sounds great. If you get a PCP I would start out simple like with a Disco, or your own set up with the least equipment and features on the rifle. This addresses POI change only, and not necessarily accuracy. to around 10 f.p.s. Plenty of guys hunt squirrel with a Benjamin pump in the east. Benjamin Marauder Air Rifle Features. That’s a fact that cannot be denied. I don’t know how many shots it gets with HPA as it blows through my backstops and bends my Field Target paddles, so I quit doing that! If they start to lock up before more than a turn or two is accomplished, then you better look for trouble. A burst disk is a small bold with a hole in it. Still made me think maybe a regulator would be better – nice to see they are not really a necessity. When the velocity dropped greater than 12 fps, that is when I know the shots are no longer regulated. I was so spoiled with the smoothness of my .177 that I sent them back, but now I think I could have made them work, after fixing the .177 that broke not long after I sent back the s410 carbines.. The greater the pressure differential (difference between reservoir pressure and firing pressure) they must deal with, the shorter their life tends to be. An unregulated gunI have a Daystate Harrier that operates best between 2650 psi and 2,000 psi. A trick with with screws and bolts is the feel to them when they are starting right or wrong. Any regulator would have to be external to the tank, which would add to the rifle’s length of pull. If the gun is question is a small caliber (.177) and the pellet is light (below 9 grains), then probably the accuracy out at 50 yards would be affected by a variation of greater than 30 f.p.s. Also don’t worry about supplying data for us to compare unless you want. As long as the air that’s supplied to it stays within that range, the gun shoots at a constant velocity, more or less. I had two of the .22 cal carbines for a week each. Thanks. Introduction to PCP Airguns – Part 1 – Regulated vs Unregulated. The .22 caliber version will give 80+ consistent, regulated shots at 850 FPS. But don’t leave it for a day. Where they go doesn’t matter, as long as you can see them all. Benjamin Marauder Synthetic Stock Gen 2 lets you fire up to 10 shots . Benjamin has done everything right when it comes to filling this gun because the quick-disconnect is an industry standard. Chronnys weren’t availabe back in my reloading days so I couldn’t check velocities, but a couple of tenths of a grain of powder should could change group size which triggered my request for this topic. Benjamin Marauder is always celebrated for one feature which took it to another level altogether — The silent action. That is the speed that gives the best groups with the JSB 10.2 Exact heavy. Regulator with airgun caliber 5.5, .22 JSB jumbo heavy, 18.1 grain (1.175gram) set on 140 bar This is a rifle shipped to Europe with limited transfer port. It for a higher shot count. I would have shipped the rifle (the frame only without the tank) to AirForce today but the lady wanted to try the new screw first… Not a bad idea to begin with… I don’t know if I told you how i managed to take out the front screw yesterday… I had to use a wrench to tightly hold the very little head of the screw that was poking out (since it was halfway screwed already and the tip of my tool was inserted in the screw)… and turn it… It took me 20 minutes,, wasn’t easy, and as I said, scratched the surface around the hole (with the wrench obviously)… I went to the range today with my G.Whisper and Benji397, no more stress.. LOL… Take care people… And thank youCheers,Jony. If the caliber is large (.22) and the pellet is heavy (21-30 grains,) then the accuracy is not affected to a noticeable degree by velocity variations greater than 30 f.p.s. Mr. B.Run some numbers through chairgun.Compare a .22 with a low B.C. How many shots should I be able to shoot between recharges if I full to 3000 and shoot down to 2000 psi? And in your words how did it compare to other PCS. What are the benefits?How would I benefit if I installed a reg in the Harrier? wadcutter at 600 fps to a .177 with a high B.C. I live in the mountains of Northern California, so it’s wooded – not open sage, where my 25-30 yard range limit would be pretty limiting. It then moves to a volumeizer, then a flow regulator before launching the paintball at 290fps with a 3fps spread. :Should I call AirForce tomorrow and speak with someone else??? I got a Mrod and a Prod with not box or information other than the owners manuals. I like power adjustment on some guns, but not on others. How long can you keep the gun fully charged? He felt it’s better to have an easily repairable rifle than to have a super-tight velocity spread. Mr. B. requested this one–comparing regulated precharged pneumatics to unregulated PCPs. You can do this now, before the end cap arrives. Regs are not known for lasting a long time. Is there some sort of regulator for co2 guns? That is with 21.1 grain Beeman Kodiaks at the power setting of 11 7.5. I saw it went fast. Learn all about the Marauder and shop awesome combos in this Definitive Guide. I just stopped at shot 65 because it never started to drop rapidly just little by little. Copyright © 1999-21 PyramydAir.com. it's silly overanalyzing the subject. I would recommend this as a excellent starter PCP. The Benjamin Discovery has a small reservoir like the Harrier, so adding a regulator might not gain an advantage in total shots, but it might tighten the extreme spread of the string, which is on the order of 30-35 f.p.s. They were installed in a copper cup that was placed into a machined seat on the side of the valve body. I thought they used to back sell some back in the 80s. And I don’t try to use it the way most people do. In some cases, you have a broken gun that has to be repaired to work at all. Marauder rifle 20" long Hammer Forged TJ barrels in 22 $245 with new air stripper for stock shroud or in 25 cal. That could be offset by increasing the pressure in the reservoir, but there’s a point beyond which the regulator will not operate. Your answer makes sense. The rifle supplied by the manufacturer for maximum power should give a better result. It’s easy to pump to 2650 psi; much easier than to pump to 3,000 psi. Most primary regulators outlast the 15 year shelf life of the reservoirs to which they are attached. You are right; each one is different. I can adjust my aiming, or the power adjuster as I loose POI. throughout the entire range. It’s reassuring to hear of the technical expertise on the blog. PS for Jony – I don’t know what you switched to the 24″ barrel from, but you do need to keep track of screw length for barrel mounting screws. A regulated tank can be purchased with a 1000 psi or 1200 psi regulator that can hit the power requirements right on the mark and still give a large number of shots (because of the barrel length efficiency). A chrony is really the only way to tell though. The good news is I may want to upgrade the .22 Webley some day, so the S410 carbine is on my short list. Hello B.B. If I had the same pressure and volume of air for each shot, everything else being equal, I would have a more accurate rifle. $92. But, I can't tell if the JSB Exact 8.4 are just as accurate, they might be, it would take a long test to find out for sure. That is what a fairly good unregulated gun will do. When you feel the thread click into position, carefully tighten the screw in the other direction. I have a FWB PCP 10-M air rifle for over 15 years now, and I brought it used. and Twotalon: I tried exactly what both said, but I think I identified the problem… The threads are pretty damaged… The screw can enter only until midway, then it gets really hard… If I do what Twotalon said, it also gets stuck in the middle… I even tried putting in the other screws from the side and the others in the bottom even though they are different lengths, they got stuck midway… It has to be the hole…. A .22 long rifle often varies by more than 30 f.p.s. Insert the allen wrench through the screw hole and into the screw head. Does it affect accuracy? I would be one of those that couldn’t stand a moving POI:). I sort of gave the lady a clue of who I was (my situation), I also mentioned that you recommended contacting them, and how the blog was helping me; Its true, I didn’t mentioned my shooting problem, only the hole problem… LOL… Or should I just wait?? Billy Lo with a USFT also won the 2005 nationals, and his prize was a 12 foot pound USFT specially tuned for the world championship. Well, a regulator lowers the pressure of the reservoir to an ideal level before making it available to the valve. So I get a 76fps spread with no loss of POI at 50 yards and an average of about 30FtLbs of energy. What about airgun that has an air tank that one cannot detach? You can leave the gun pumped up longer than 30 minutes. Accuracy was more consistent. I do have a question though. The only problems that I have ever heard of involved adjustable secondary regs that were not lubricated and developed leaks, or were over lubed and experienced airflow blockages due to excess grease. Do you have to blow off the thing after a half hour? I have my power wheel set at 6 on my 18″ barrel Talon SS .22 and shoot JSB Exacts (15.8g) at about 900fps for 60 shots before the POI drops (and it pretty much goes away then). Thanks so much for this topic. I shot it regularly and so far it has no problem. This area is dedicated to the .22 caliber Benjamin Marauder by Crosman. Very accurate, low noise very low cost to shoot, Just plain fun and my new neighbor has been coming over to shoot with me and he likes it too. The first few shots after 45 shots group just a little low and after shot 55 or so the POI starts to drop rapidly. It takes about the same volume of CO2 operating at 900psi to achieve the same velocity but the spread is inconsistent and often expands as rate of fire increases. What fps are you getting? for the first two or three shots. 10-shot repeater with auto-indexing feature; Choked barrel delivers superior accuracy; 2-stage adjustable match trigger The person you spoke to didn’t know about your problems with poor accuracy, so she only suggested the new cap screw. B. requested this one--comparing regulated precharged pneumatics to unregulated PCPs.What is a regulator?First, what is a regulator and how does it work? At the same time looking for a good used scuba tank. Accuracy wise 2/3 said not enough difference to pick a winner; the remainder gave a slight nod to the FX. Wayne I almost called you on the Disco. He does the trigger, crowns the barrel, puts a better seal on, and re-works the barrel bolt probe, and a power adjuster of sorts on the back… all for about $70 retail I think.. And if you can find a barrel weight, it becomes a perfect PCP for the money.. From there go to the top like an Air Arms S410 or Volvo’s FX Whisper or the like.. With the Disco using only a 2,000 lb fill, they use the pressure in scuba tanks, below the 3,000 lbs you need for the other rifles, if you go that way. The Mods Tim does, do help!! throughout their entire string of usable shots. :Thank you once again for helping me… Today I feel more relax and ready to work on things… Its good to know that the damaged hole can be fixed… I will call AirForce now and see what happens… About the bloop tube… nope, I don’t use one… Yesterday I only used the .22caliber 24″barrel, nothing else… Take care sir! Wayne, knowing your rifle is where it’s at. PelletierMr. How many shots should I be able to shoot between recharges if I full to 3000 and shoot down to 2000 psi? The ones I used to install at AirForce are round in shape and are certified from the vendor. Mrod was shooting 695 to 708 and I increased the power one full turn and was getting 810 to 823 . This area is dedicated to the .22 caliber Benjamin Marauder by Crosman. Benjamin Field & Target Regulated Marauder .22 cal 0. Tuned using JSB 18.13gr: 30 Shots @ 31.02 FPE Avg., ES 1.36% (12 FPS), 1.58 FPE/CI 25 Synrod Regulated. Find something to press against the bottom of the screw to get it up against the hole on the inside of the frame.See if the screw can be started with some threads that are hopefully remaining undamaged and turn the screw out through the frame. Stock Marauder 25 cal. Any service intervention on the regulator should first be … I cannot deny that. B.B. 5 posts • Page 1 of 1. Number of shots was no change or maybe less. 80 shots? A regulated Talon offers the promise that AirForce never specifically made, but many thought they were getting just by adjusting the power wheel; a fully power adjustable air gun. A couple of questions: First, since I was essentially “dry-firing” the Benjamin, will the valve mechanism be damaged? Board index ‹ Benjamin Marauder PCP air guns by Crosman ... 22 Synrod Unregulated. Wife is getting around 64 shots out of the Prod from 3000 to 2000 psi. especially if the primary and secondary regs are one in the same. At least, it is for me. Some things to considerSome guns aren’t suited for regulators. Tell them that you are the one who posted your problem on this blog. heavy at 1000 fps for drop at 50 yards. I have heard rumors of CO2 regulators, but I’ve never read about or seen one. You said “I’m not talking about decades of time, either. Close options were a 12″ barrel .177 and use the stock Talon tank (~19fpe), or the 24″ barrel with a Micro-meter tank. You'll never have a problem finding a way to fill your gun with air. They will not vary more than 20 f.p.s. in a 10-shot string, yet the accuracy isn’t affected at 50 yards. The most important thing you said was “…know your rifle.” If more shooter would take the time to do that, we would have less to talk about here. A regulated gunWhat about a regulated gun? But only do that if the scope was adjusted very high to begin with. An air valve has a range of pressure–from low to high. My cost to try the Disco was just $38 for the 5 weeks I owned it. I think the carbines have a smaller air tank, so they don't get as many shots. It really likes the Crosmen 14.3 domed pellets but did not group well at all with Crosmen 14.3 HP. Results with installed regulator in air gun Benjamin Marauder. I don’t know how they would be in the far west. I saw a few that didn’t pass our air pressure test, when we tested each valve, but I never saw one fail in use, except for one that the owner pierced with an icepick because he felt it was time for the burst disk to be replaced. Yeah, I come from the “before chrony” days of reloading, too. But fill to 2700 psi, and the pellet might go only 880 f.p.s. I bought the guns out of an estate where it was reported that the guy bought then and got sick and passed away before he got a chance to shot them. I have never seen a regulator fail, and I have been using the same primary regulator for 10 years. They have to burst very close to their rated pressure throughout their life – which is indefinite. I think part of the lesson in Jony’s experience is way too much stuff all at once. It will give you better consistency and shot-to-shot accuracy immediately. The hole is covered with foil. Moving up a gear, we come to the Benjamin Marauder Field and Target air rifle. The USFTFor that reason, Larry Durham decided not to regulate the design of what became the USFT rifle. Blow it off at the end of the hunt. And the velocity variation of those shots dropped from over 30 f.p.s. Is a power adjuster on a pcp prone to necessary constant maintenance like a regulator in a pcp? When a certain pressure is exceeded, the gun begins to shoot slower than it’s capable of shooting. PS My 24″ barrel Talon SS .22 powered by C02 gets 650 or so shots at 735 fps before the power drops off at Power wheel setting of .5; AirForce advised to set it at 0, but I wanted to have it on something! Does a shot string in a pcp that varies more than 30 fps affect accuracy normally? I am actually on the waiting period for my first pcp. You bet I started it – for reasons like this! B.B. The aftermarket reg on my Career failed in five years. It continues to do this until the internal pressure drops below the point where valve lock starts happening. When going for accuracy, airgunners are exactly like firearm reloaders. Without a divers tank, it is faster to top of a rifle that way also. The goal is for zero variation from shot to shot. Thanks for this post. Almost two years after recreational legalization, the illicit in California is estimated to be almost 3x the size of the regulated market, and is projected to retain a majority share of overall cannabis revenue until 2024 . They change the way the firing valve performs, but not through regulating the starting air pressure. Most of them work best down around 2,000 psi and some work best […] My Discovery has Anthony’s barrel weight, but I can still hear the change in sound when she is entering and leaving her sweet spot which is also reflected in the size of the groups. $235 uses stock shroud parts. At half power, with a 200 bar fill, it shoots the JSB 10.2 heavy at 919fps hi, 908 lo, avg 911fps for the first 30 shots… on shot 60 I'm at 873fps on shot 90 I'm at 100 bar and 798fps….At 20 yards indoor first loss of poi is about shot 90.. maybe 1/8" low, shot 130 at 50 bar, (765fps) 1/2" low…I know my rifle and can adjust for that just fine… I CAN, (not always) keep a 3/8" – 5 shot group for all 130 shots in a benchrest.. My experience with regulators comes from paintball. Granted, an awsome selection of barrel lengths and calibers along with three-four choices of power source (C02, regular tank, Condor tank, Micro-meter tank)give a lot of power options, but they are specific points per choice with minimal impact by the wheel if you want consistent shots. And so I will guess that a heavier pellet flies with less disruption as well. + Time tested, durable, ... *Excellent Power Upgrade for your .22 caliber f actory regulated Marauder Field and Target Rifle. down to 10 f.p.s. Benjamin barrels, blued and choked. And offers you auto indexing, which keeps you accurate with successive shots. Do you know how to chase a cross-threaded hole with a screw? Guess I had better add a chrony to the wishlist before buying a PCP. JonyThis may be difficult, but possible.Position the screw inside the frame with a pair of tweezers or needle nose pliers. Thanks for the insight; my new rifle is advertised as: “Valved with FX’s latest design, this rifle delivers regulated performance without the hassle of a regulator.”. But they are very reliable. I’ve also seen valves that varied more throughout their range. by Charlie1022 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:20 pm, by Charlie1022 » Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:36 pm, Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest, If you think the built in forum search function sucks, Use Googles site search below. The erector tube is floating around inside the scope. i personally look at weight, length, shot string, price, quality. help again! B.B. While the regular (unregulated) Benjamin Marauder air rifle is widely available through online and physical stores, the regulated Marauder will only be available through the Crosman Custom Shop’s online ordering system. On dural ( silver ) cylinder 9,25x1,78 nbr 90 is 92 cubic inches and is filled to psi. 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