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In line with many, the authors of this book devalue the OT by making much of it typological based on their understanding of the NT (they read the NT back into the OT). Another way of stating this is that we cannot interpret the OT without reference to the NT. There is so much rich information that could easily be translated into meat for a lay person. Rarely does a DT ever claim that a nonDT understands their position. Just a moment while we sign you in to your Goodreads account. through. June 30th 2012 They also look at the linguistic data behind cutting a covenant and upholding a covenant. (The Gospel Coalition) This section is where the heavy lifting really happens. Dr. Gentry uses so many block quotes, many of them are more than a page in length. Where God in his holiness confronts his image-bearers in their rebellion, there must be wrath, otherwise God is not the jealous and self-sufficient God he claims to be, and his holiness is impugned.58”, “Prophetic preaching and writing certainly does not follow the patterns of Aristotelian rectilinear logic so fundamental to our discourse in the Western world. 15:5-7 I blog at Fundamentally Reformed. NCT is actually very limited in its scope. While they do this, God's glory in the covenants shine. The footnotes are super helpful and detailed. The OT expectation is of the borders enlarged and the Gentiles included in far bigger ways than make sense in classic dispensationalism (of the Ryrie variety). But there is a huge difference between stating the NT may only supply additional information, because the inspired NT cannot correct nor contradict the inspired OT, and stating that the NT may confirm or else correct our interpretation of the OT. There is an abridged version which I would recommend over this one unless you are really geeked out about this topic. Within the wider development of their kingdom through covenant, their argument for particular redemption is nearly an impenetrable fort. Therefore, do not let the size of this book intimidate you. Anyone interested in developing a theology that fits within the big picture narrative of Scripture would benefit from Kingdom through Covenant. (p. 156). For what it's worth I think the book is worth reading, but it suffers from two flaws; one simply irksome, the other well nigh fatal. In seminary I took all the ST classes with Wellum, as well as hermeneutics and the work of Christ classes and they were excellent. We cannot claim that our hermaneutic is either inspired or infallible. There is no via media here, only a recasting of covenant theology via "New Covenant Theology." However, it makes more sense to believe that OT texts which are handled this way point to the divinely intended manner for understanding other OT texts. Reviews (8) Read more . “Kingdom through Covenant has helped me better understand the Bible as a continuous narrative. Reviews (100) Read more . ... Paul faults them for basing their entire position on NT exegesis. Chapter 1 The Importance of Covenants in Grasping the Bible’s Story. This book reveals the structure that supports the revelation of Gods message throughout time. 8:7-13), which are part of the progressive revelation of the one plan of God that is fulfilled in the new covenant. I find it both surprising and encouraging that a book spanning 700+ pages has sent such ripples through the stream of evangelicalism, but then I remember that within such a book is a purported dismantling of theological systems like covenant & dispensational theology, general atonement, the nature of the covenants in scripture (unconditional vs. conditional), etc. Whether you consciously hold to a biblical-theological system or not at the very least this book will challenge your current understanding of the overarching plot structure/meta-narrative that binds the canon of Scripture together. Especially if you do not have a background in theology, the reading will be strenuous but I found the same joy finishing this book as I do after a long hike to the top of a mountain. This fundamental point of the vision has unfortunately escaped the attention of proponents of both dispensational and nondispensational treatments in the last hundred years. The NT "adjustment" is so often not an adjustment at all, merely the addition of information (which is what progressive revelation really is). Eden as the temple sanctuary now reaches its telos in the new creation. 108, 125, 142) and thus keep God’s covenant by obeying his will (pp. 2. Let us know what’s wrong with this preview of, Published We may assert some new view based on the NT, when in fact we misunderstand the NT. Second, the chapter on the new covenant in Daniel is masterful. I personally believe NCT is closer to CT than to DT, but I see it as correcting some of the problems of classical CT. My own difficulties with DT came through the exegesis of several NT texts in which the writers of Scripture handle OT texts differently than does DT. And that, only if we interpret the NT accurately. Actually, I noted how Moo (a NCT not a DT), Bock (PD), and Vlach (DT) all note how weak the NT effort was. Ultimately, I'm convinced that their new covenant theology position, which sees Jesus as the true Israel, is the most true to Scripture of any of the options on the table today for seeing how the OT and NT fit together, and for how to view Israel and the Church. Thus, Scripture doesn't interpret Scripture, profane history does. At least for me. I suspect that there is a growing number of people who do not identify with either of those two camps. (p. 33). Gentry and Wellum convincingly prove that the covenants form the "backbone of the metanarrative of Scripture." The responders to this book were Craig Blaising, Michael Grisanti, and Darrell Bock. At 716 pages (before appendix and indices)"Kingdom Through Covenant" proves to be a weighty volume, but it is a tremendous resource. It is a fantastic book that seeks to bring clarity to the dispensational / covenant theology debate. First, it’s clear that part of the major difference between this new covenant theology and classical covenant theology is the understanding of the Abrahamic covenant and the covenant of grace. In fact, while I was expecting the book to be informative, I don't think I was expecting to learn quite as much as I did. We can arrive at a loosely held, tentative interpretation, but must be willing to adjust it in light of the NT, whenever NT authors deal with an OT text. Since all OT prophecies are not quoted in the NT, I cannot prove that assertion. Thanks Bob for sharing my review at SharperIron. They trace the meaning of the concept speaking the truth in love back through the Old Testament arguing that it’s connected with the concept social justice. They are viewing the development of the covenants (the “s” is also an important distinction they make from covenant theology) diachronastically: Yet, contrary to “covenant theology,” which has the tendency to speak of God’s one plan of salvation in terms of the “covenant of grace,” or “dispensational theology,” which tends to partition history in terms of dispensations, it is more accurate to think in terms of a plurality of covenants (e.g., Gal. Follow me on Twitter. Just a quick reply because of present time limitations. Mainly the second half of the book. What other conclusion can we draw from progressive revelation? Sabbath, warning passages, circumcision, land, We just don't happen to agree with you about genre. 1 Kings 8:60 - so that all the peoples of the earth may know that the LORD is God and that there is no other. Foundationally, they argue that “it is through the biblical covenants that God’s kingdom comes to this word centered in the person and work of our Lord Jesus Christ” (p. 591). We must address violations of the covenant requirements not simply as offenses against God but as a destructive path that constitutes social injustice and inhuman behavior. They were not afraid to draw out exegetical possibilities that didn’t strengthen their own position. This book hurts CT more than DT by far. 4:3, 13; Rom. GOD’S KINGDOM. If you currently hold to a baptist ecclesiology and view of the sacraments this book will go beyond proof-texting in helping you understand why you believe what you believe and why covenant theologians disagree, Many Christians, myself included, find themselves stuck between two competing theological systems used to interpret the Bible's over-arching story: dispensationalism on the one hand, and covenant theology on the other. Both are inconsistent, argues Gentry, in their views of the relationship between the Abrahamic and the New Covenant. They then unify the false dichotomy between holiness and social justice—as if caring about reading your Bible and speaking wholesomely and taking care of the poor are mutually exclusive. They discuss this covenant within their three horizons (textual, epochal, and canonical) demonstrating that talking of a covenant in creation is not a fabricated reformed blindspot but is a Biblical, exegetical, and historically sound interpretation of what takes place in Genesis 1-3. Thus the real return from exile, a return including the forgiveness of sins, renewal of the covenant, and consecration of the temple, will not take just seventy years, but rather seventy “sevens,” i.e., a much longer time. This book also captures the state of the debate today and is worthy of reading and interacting with no matter what your theological mindset. This line is alarming in view of what I've said previously: This is a subject of ongoing study, which can be fascinating to some degree. Kingdom through Covenant: A Biblical Theological Understanding of the Covenants Peter J. Gentry, Stephen J. Wellum. The NT claims necessary priority in the interpretation of Scripture. NCT is an animal that neither CT nor DT like. You ought to know that I am well aware of the "other scholars" and their typological exegesis (something I alluded to above). Many Christians, myself included, find themselves stuck between two competing theological systems used to interpret the Bible's over-arching story: dispensationalism on the one hand, and covenant theology on the other. Gentry and Wellum have done them a great service in showing how both covenant and dispensational theology mishandle the covenants in different ways. I don't know if you've read the book, Paul, or not. The Bible does not seem to make this distinction, this "canon within a canon," that you are leaning heavily on. The major argument I’ve encountered is the lack of the word covenant within the first three chapters of Genesis. They constantly speak of the fulfillment at the Cross and such like. Excellent book, though it takes some work to get through. I highly recommend this book for those who are interested in Biblical theology, Systematic theology, hermeneutics (so pretty much everyone). There was a lot of linguistic and technical work being argued for to establish for their position. I just said they see covenantal fulfillment in the first coming. …concerned with the overall message of the whole Bible. Gentry, Peter J., and Stephen J. Wellum. They are both equally the Word of God and are both quite clear (with some exceptions in certain passages). James K faults the authors for being weak on NT exegesis (not enough of it). Kingdom Through Covenant presents a case for a via media between dispensationalism and covenant theology. Barkman's interpretations of the NT cannot correct our interpretations until he has proved his point. You cannot ask for much from any book. Looks down their nose at any talk of genre? But that's getting a bit astray. True. So a lack of holiness is social injustice which will work itself out in the way we treat others. Most of the time it is true I think, but it is pretty standard to just include that. (Reformed Forum)Listen to a lecture by Stephen Wellum entitled Hermeneutics 101: How to Interpret the Bible. Furthermore it is inadequate since the NT refers to very little of the OT. And with the ringing in of 2021, we will come to the end of this year's Goodreads Reading Challenge. Nothing radical. In other words, is it really the system that is at fault or the exegete? That seems opposite of what one might expect, but that appears to be the crux of the competing interpretations. NCT emphasizes actual covenants, not speculative ones. However, if the NT authors used the OT legitimately, then the meaning they assert is in the text and we can replicate. Kingdom through Covenant: A Biblical-Theological Understanding of the Covenants. I really don't want to get into a skirmish here. The study of the covenants provides a framework for understanding and applying the message of the Bible to life in the new covenant community. They argue for a physical return to the land in the first seven weeks and a time where a spiritual restoration would take place as a key component in understanding the 7 and 62 weeks as “the ultimate jubilee” (p. 544). Because I've been reading a lot of early Christian history lately, I thought it might be interesting to step back and read about something a bit broader in scope--namely, something about the covenants in the Bible stretching back into the Old Testament. The result is a massive yet fascinating exploration of the unfolding of the covenants of Scripture that is both theologically rich and exegetically compelling. This was a challenging read but very helpful. And why do you only know what they meant and not what the OT authors meant? Given your approach, it would seem we could only deal with what the NT clarifies for us. Thanks for the review. After two years, two reads, and 50 pages of notes, its finally time to mark this book as "read." Book Libraries. If we refuse to allow the NT to teach us anything about interpreting the OT, we are putting our interpretations on the same level as inspired Scripture. ***** Practically Kingdom through Covenant’s thrust is more covenant than dispensational. If we apply historical/grammatical methods to NT passages where the OT is cited, we get some very helpful, not to mention inspired interpretation of the OT. As a covenant theology loving Christian I found their critiques even-handed and thoughtful. Not "progressive" but "revised" revelation? I extremely grateful for this book which has become precious to me as no book as so greatly shaped my understanding of the Scriptures and how the covenants unfold across the revelation of Scripture. I'll post a fuller review later. See above ... How do you know what the NT authors meant? What is “Kingdom through Covenant”? The reason I say "stuck" is that those of us in this murky middle area don't find either system completely convincing; yet over the course of the previous century, there has not been any third option presented that has proved to be a real contender with these two long-established systems. I already mentioned the benefit for the chapter on the new covenant and Daniel but the entire work would be a huge help for pastors interested in preaching through the Old Testament. What Dispensationalists do to the land promise, Covenantalists do to the geneological principle (entering the covenant through circumcision). This holistic approach allowed them to fairly expound each passage of Scripture. But in this monumental work, Peter Gentry and Stephen Wellum attempt to provide just that: a fleshed-out theological system that serves as a "middle way" between dispensationalism and covenant theology, which they've termed "progressive covenantalism." My main point is to suggest that our interpretation of the NT may be just as faulty as it is of the OT. Wheaton, IL: Crossway, 2012. Yes, I have read the book. Reviews (18) Kingdom through Covenant: A Biblical-Theological Understanding of the Covenants (Second Edition) Stephen J. Wellum. With Gentry's excellent understanding of the biblical languages and ancient near eastern studies combined with Wellum's theological expertise, Kingdom through Covenant will allow a deeper and more faithful reading of Scripture. The land, which functioned as a type of this greater reality, now reaches its terminus. CT and DT are quite extensive in what they affect. The NT claims necessary priority in the interpretation of Scripture. But I'd appreciate it if you'd respond to these matters, and/or the others I spoke about above. After all the groundwork and exegesis, the book closes with a discussion on the implications of this middle way. They argue that Ephesians 4:25-5:5 Paul is arguing for a new Christian ethic established by the new covenant. 146, 149, 156, 160), who through suffering have been given a clean heart (pp. He's the author of the book What's It Mean to Be a Baptist? Instead, the approach in ancient Hebrew literature is to take up a topic and develop it from a particular perspective and then to stop and take up the same theme again from another point of view. They again place the unique work of redemption by Christ in the framework of the new covenant. Additional irony is seen in DT basing it's interpretation upon the priority of the OT, and not allowing the NT to adjust their understanding of OT prophecies, whereas CT bases it's interpretation upon the superior standing of the NT, and the adjustment of their understanding of OT prophecies in the light of the NT. And I have a biblical theological understanding of the "land" as typologically pointing to our experience of rest now ("already") and the greater realization of our heavenly inheritance later ("not yet"). They illustrated what many other scholars also demonstrate: that the OT itself views the land typologically and sees a greater fulfillment of the new covenant than what typical dispensational authors have allowed. Neither author is well versed enough in dispensationalism to measure out a middle course between it and covenant theology. And I have a biblical theological understanding of the "land" as typologically pointing to our ex. An example: "apokalypsis" means to unveil or reveal; not to make esoteric. They are viewing the development of the covenants (the “s” is also an important … The authors call their view a species of new covenant theology, opting for progressive covenantalism (24) or simply for kingdom through covenant. The middle section leaves a bit to be desired, though I am generally appreciative of how the individual covenants in Scripture were handled. Summary. The OT and NT cannot hold equal place in the field of interpretation. (p. 104), Part 2 is an extended exegetical discussion of the major biblical covenants. Do we treat each other with faithful loyal love? In light of the numerous OT texts cited in the NT, we cannot "lock in" our understanding based upon what we believe to be the obvious meaning employing historical/grammatical methodology. “Kingdom through Covenant is directly applicable to a pastor faithfully seeking understanding of God’s Word as it reveals the structure that supports the narrative of God’s message throughout time. 92) from all nations (pp. Some assert that if the NT used the OT in certain ways, then we should be able to do the same. It forces us to declare that the NT has not corrected our interpretation because it cannot. Whether one finds their arguments convincing or not, theologians who argue for or against covenant theology or dispensationalism will eventually have to consider the claims made by the authors. “Kingdom through Covenant has helped me better understand the Bible as a continuous narrative. By Peter J. Gentry, Stephen J. Wellum... Show All. The same is true for CTers claiming that also. God must do what He promises to do, but the true meaning of what He promised lies apart from the promises themselves - in the NT - a revelation no first generation Christian had access to. It again was refreshingly balanced and biblical. The main reason I feel the need to mark it down is because of Part 2. Christ is the goal and fulfillment of every covenant. They also argue for Ezra’s return commissioned by Artaxerxes as the beginning of the seventy weeks and note it also starts “a sabbatical cycle” (p. 547). As I've already pointed out, the first Christians did not have the NT on hand to interpret their OT's with. Featured website Just arrived . There are no discussion topics on this book yet. And it’s more Baptistic in its understanding and hermeneutical underpinnings. We’d love your help. But what if I reject that standard? After all the groundwork and exegesis, the book closes with a discussion on the implications of this middle way. Additional thoughts on the book and links to reviews are available on this post by Andrew Naselli. I'm also looking forward to reading. What I and others like me are saying is that G.N. Editors’ Note: As noted in our recent interview with authors Peter Gentry and Stephen Wellum, Kingdom through Covenant: A Biblical-Theological Understanding of the Covenants (Crossway, 2012) is a groundbreaking contribution to any discussion about the intersection of exegesis, biblical theology, and systematic theology. It critiques both views arguing that the genealogical principle (of children being included in the covenant) is typological and expanded in the new testament to only adopted children / children by faith being in the covenant. When I read former CT now NCT hammer this point, I can only imagine Sam Waldron or Michael Horton with a twitch in their eye as they read that. I also give 1 star for the sheer amount of research and work that the authors clearly put into the book. This book is REALLY long. I see no reason to depart from that. The Bible as a whole treats the OT on equal par with the NT. It’s one of those rare books I plan on coming back to often. This language clearly indicates a covenant established earlier between God and creation or God and humans at creation. I think the NT is the final word. Thanks for the review, Matthew. 's favored hermeneutics above suspicion while DT's 'contend that the NT cannot correct their interpretation?' 586-87). That can't be the essence of CT since it is not unique to CT. Pastor of Adult Ministries But this observation seems to assert the very thing you wish to deny--infallible interpretation. There is little doubt that Kingdom Through Covenant: A Biblical-Theological Understanding of the Covenants (hereafter KTC) is a significant work.It has already garnered much attention online (see here, here, and here for a sampling). The two are inseparable. Otherwise, the meaning is not in the words, but in something else. The study of the covenants provides a framework for understanding and applying the message of the Bible to life in the new covenant community. ", "I do not believe one Testament has heremeutical priority over the other." It provides a concise survey and accurate comparison of both systems. 541-543) are the same. # Book Kingdom Through Covenant A Biblical Theological Understanding Of The Covenants # Uploaded By Barbara Cartland, kingdom through covenant a biblical theological understanding of the covenants gentry peter j wellum stephen j isbn 8601400551622 kostenloser versand fur alle bucher mit versand und verkauf duch amazon This book reveals the structure that supports the revelation of God’s message throughout time. This group looks down their nose at any talk of genre, when genre is how we do literal / literary interpretation - and genre comes from a detailed study of grammar and history! As seven-hundred-plus pages, I figured this book would be very thorough in discussing the various covenants, and it was. Jesus as the "True Israel" would only nullify the land promises and national salvation if the NT was silent about the matter. 4:24; Eph. Peter J. Gentry and Steven J. Wellum, Kingdom through Covenant: A Biblical-Theological Understanding of the Covenants (Wheaton: Crossway, 2012). And how come the test of a prophet is based on whether what he says literally comes to pass? That seems pretty strong, doesn't it? Kingdom Through Covenant by Peter Gentry and Stephen Wellum, is in many ways the book that I have been waiting for. Early on they state their position “would fit broadly under the umbrella of what is called "new covenant theology," or to coin a better term, “progressive covenantalism.” But they argue they are plowing new ground in making new proposals. I also give 1 star for the sheer amount of research and work that the authors clearly put into the book. Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and works in State government. (p. 716). I could see this chapter being extremely helpful for pastors looking to springboard into a sermon series on Daniel. I just finished this book myself. In fact, they are actually quite silly. 1) I believe that our triune God 'actually' planned our redemption in eternity past. Reviews (65) Read more . While the type has significance for its own time, its greater significance is directed toward the future; it testifies to something greater than itself that is still to come. I'm still digesting it. As seven-hundred-plus pages, I figured this book would be very thorough in discussing the various covenants, and it was. The kingdom is established as God himself keeps both sides of the … I meant hermeneutical of course. The first three chapters of this book really whet my appetite for what was coming - an exegetical attempt at paving a 'middle way' between covenant theology on the one hand and dispensational theology on the other. Three of the major practical implications which I found helpful in the final section include the discussion of baptism, particular redemption, & the land promises. While finding some of the discussion challenging (I’ve never studied Hebrew), I also recognized an approachability in the way even the most difficult passages were examined. Neither have the majority of Christians for most of Church History. This, in turn, allows us to see specific covenantal discontinuities in God’s unfolding plan which has import for a variety of theological issues. God’s Kingdom through God’s Covenants is the abridged version of Gentry and Wellum’s magisterial 2012 work, Kingdom through Covenant. They unpack the importance for dividing the seventy weeks. John 3; John 5; Luke 24; etc.). (p. 92). I was pondering this remark today as I wrapped up a study of eschatology in Amos 9. And to talk of "enlargements" etc is simply to indulge in the kind of double-speak I refer to. This hits the dispensational camp. Liberty University. Having finally finished this massive theological work, here are a couple of thoughts. “Kingdom through Covenant has helped me better understand the Bible as a continuous narrative. I think Kingdom Through Covenant, much like Blaising and Bock's Progressive Dispensationalism, will be a theological game-changer. They also argue that the “Anointed One” and “Leader” in 9:25-26 (see pp. Speaking the truth in love is paramount for this. These three are the very essence of Covenant theology (which does place tremendous emphasis of the Biblical Covenants as well). What the OT says, and how we interpret what it says may be entirely different matters. I give this book 1 star right away for the editing and type-face. Anyone interested in developing a theology that fits within the big picture narrative of Scripture would benefit from. Language: english ... Other readers will always be interested in your opinion of the books you've read. So while they can speak of one people of God, they also call out the church as a new people of God. Will come back to it at a later time! The priority is given to social justice (feeding the poor, taking care of orphans, etc). When we observe that NT writers did not honor our rule, it should cause us to re-consider the rule, to modify it to accommodate new information. I found this discussion particularly compelling because today it’s fashionable to contrast Christian piety (good old fashioned holiness if you’d like) with missional living. But they take pains to build their system from the ground up using OT exegesis. It is also the root of where people like Pete Enns have gone. I do not believe one Testament has heremeutical priority over the other. Your reasons for leaving DT are taken, even if I personally disagree. There seems to be so much going on and so many allusions and prophecy—it’s hard to wrap your head around. Mike Vlach also reviewed it in addition to Bock and Moo. I mentioned earlier that in the midst of all the technical discussion they had a way of making the discussion approaching and this is exemplified best in the discussion of Daniel. In other words if you assert that inspiration was needed to do what the NT authors did, then it is not something that is found in the OT words/text, and it is not something we can replicate. I reject that view of genre as opposing the clear intent of an apokalypsis or "revelation.". The disciplines of biblical and systematic theology join forces to investigate anew the biblical covenants and the implications of such a study for conclusions in systematic theology. 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